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  • #7709
    Didier CELI
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      For your information, QucsStudio is not only a very good free simulator, it is also a very good tool for modelling devices (extraction of model parameters, model analysis and validation, …). For more information, see the documents presented at the last 2023 HICUM workshop.

      https://www.iee.et.tu-dresden.de/iee/eb/forsch/Models/workshop_2023/contr_2023/Z_Huszka_Analysis_of_the_forward_output_kinks_in_HICUM.pdf

      https://www.iee.et.tu-dresden.de/iee/eb/forsch/Models/workshop_2023/contr_2023/D_Celi_HICUM_high_current_parameter_extractions.pdf

      #7710
      zhu
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        Apparently, named node variables can not be used in equations. E.g. U=1-VBE.V-VBE.V and similar throws error in the new revisions therefore we are restricted to use v3.3.2. Originally, the same issue existed in v3.3.2 as well until we were sent an updated EXE file (to D. Celi) by Michael. Hopefully, the issue would be fixed from the next release on.

        #7711
        zhu
        Participant

          This is a v4.3.1 simulation trial with the QucsStudio implemented hicumL2V2p33 (same result with v4.4.2). There are 3 filter boxes on the schematic but neither works. Eqn. filter3 runs fine with the updated v3.3.2 EXE file of Michael.

          #7715
          zhu
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            …and the SCH

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            #7722
            Carsten
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              I’m very impressed with your work.

              #8080
              tomhajjar
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                Didier

                Can you post the QucsStudio projects used in these papers?

                #8081
                Didier CELI
                Participant

                  Tomhajjar

                  It is not so easy for several reasons:

                  1- I’m using QucsStudio v3.3.2 with a patch sent by Michael M. to fix a bug (see ZHU’s comments). Unfortunately, this fix is not available in version 4.3.1. I hope it will be available in the next version of QucsStudio.

                  2- To better automatize the extraction steps, I use additional OCTAVE routines developed by ZHU. I am not owner of these routines.

                  3- The data used in the papers are company confidential.

                  My proposal is to post, as soon as I have time (over the Christmas period), a simple extraction example, based on the SPICE Gummel-Poon model, using non-confidential data.

                  In the meantime, for more information, please consult

                  https://www.iee.et.tu-dresden.de/iee/eb/forsch/AK-Bipo/2021/3_CELI_STM_AKB2021_QucsStudioParameterExtraction.pdf

                  #8082
                  zhu
                  Participant

                    This is the linear regression package for using in QucsStudio

                    https://www.iee.et.tu-dresden.de/iee/eb/forsch/AK-Bipo/2019/1-AMS_zhu1_BipAK19.pdf

                    – Zoltan

                    #8083
                    zhu
                    Participant

                      the linreg package…

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                      #8085
                      Didier CELI
                      Participant

                        Thank you so much Zoltan for sharing your linear regression routine. This is a key point for extracting model parameters directly (when it is possible) without using an optimizer.

                        Didier

                        #8086
                        zhu
                        Participant

                          The QucsStudio Owner’s optimization tutorial extended by the alternative linear regression option.

                          – solution can be obtained in one-shot w/o iterations

                          – pointwise error reduction by one order of magnitude

                          – easy configuration

                          Full or partial application of linear regression i/o optimization is strongly advised whenever it is feasible.

                           

                          Zoltan

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