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12. September 2023 at 9:07 #7709
For your information, QucsStudio is not only a very good free simulator, it is also a very good tool for modelling devices (extraction of model parameters, model analysis and validation, …). For more information, see the documents presented at the last 2023 HICUM workshop.
13. September 2023 at 14:20 #7710Apparently, named node variables can not be used in equations. E.g. U=1-VBE.V-VBE.V and similar throws error in the new revisions therefore we are restricted to use v3.3.2. Originally, the same issue existed in v3.3.2 as well until we were sent an updated EXE file (to D. Celi) by Michael. Hopefully, the issue would be fixed from the next release on.
14. September 2023 at 12:57 #7711This is a v4.3.1 simulation trial with the QucsStudio implemented hicumL2V2p33 (same result with v4.4.2). There are 3 filter boxes on the schematic but neither works. Eqn. filter3 runs fine with the updated v3.3.2 EXE file of Michael.
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14. September 2023 at 14:08 #7715…and the SCH
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21. September 2023 at 20:47 #7722I’m very impressed with your work.
28. November 2023 at 17:55 #8080Didier
Can you post the QucsStudio projects used in these papers?
30. November 2023 at 16:08 #8081Tomhajjar
It is not so easy for several reasons:
1- I’m using QucsStudio v3.3.2 with a patch sent by Michael M. to fix a bug (see ZHU’s comments). Unfortunately, this fix is not available in version 4.3.1. I hope it will be available in the next version of QucsStudio.
2- To better automatize the extraction steps, I use additional OCTAVE routines developed by ZHU. I am not owner of these routines.
3- The data used in the papers are company confidential.
My proposal is to post, as soon as I have time (over the Christmas period), a simple extraction example, based on the SPICE Gummel-Poon model, using non-confidential data.
In the meantime, for more information, please consult
1. December 2023 at 15:42 #8082This is the linear regression package for using in QucsStudio
https://www.iee.et.tu-dresden.de/iee/eb/forsch/AK-Bipo/2019/1-AMS_zhu1_BipAK19.pdf
– Zoltan
1. December 2023 at 15:47 #8083the linreg package…
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1. December 2023 at 23:38 #8085Thank you so much Zoltan for sharing your linear regression routine. This is a key point for extracting model parameters directly (when it is possible) without using an optimizer.
Didier
2. December 2023 at 16:53 #8086The QucsStudio Owner’s optimization tutorial extended by the alternative linear regression option.
– solution can be obtained in one-shot w/o iterations
– pointwise error reduction by one order of magnitude
– easy configuration
Full or partial application of linear regression i/o optimization is strongly advised whenever it is feasible.
Zoltan
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